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	<title>Comments on: Which is Worst: the URL for IE7 Add-ons, Firefox Extensions, or Greasemonkey?</title>
	<link>http://blog.welldesignedurls.org/2007/02/02/which-url-is-worst-ie7-add-ons-firefox-extensions-greasemonkey/</link>
	<description>Advocating User-Centered URL Design</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: AdamD</title>
		<link>http://blog.welldesignedurls.org/2007/02/02/which-url-is-worst-ie7-add-ons-firefox-extensions-greasemonkey/#comment-827</link>
		<author>AdamD</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 22:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.welldesignedurls.org/2007/02/02/which-url-is-worst-ie7-add-ons-firefox-extensions-greasemonkey/#comment-827</guid>
					<description>greasemonkey.com
firefox.com/extensions/
microsoft.com/ie/addons/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>greasemonkey.com<br />
firefox.com/extensions/<br />
microsoft.com/ie/addons/</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Fults</title>
		<link>http://blog.welldesignedurls.org/2007/02/02/which-url-is-worst-ie7-add-ons-firefox-extensions-greasemonkey/#comment-834</link>
		<author>Brad Fults</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 06:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.welldesignedurls.org/2007/02/02/which-url-is-worst-ie7-add-ons-firefox-extensions-greasemonkey/#comment-834</guid>
					<description>I agree with AdamD with a small addendum for the Firefox Extensions URL:

The Mozilla Corporation sells a product named Firefox. They own firefox.com, but redirect it to mozilla.com/products/firefox/. That said, given Mozilla's strategy with respect to add-ons, it would probably make sense for firefox.com/extensions/ redirect to addons.mozilla.org/extensions/firefox/ &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; for mozilla.com/products/firefox/extensions/ to also redirect to addons.mozilla.org/extensions/firefox/.

This brings up the larger issues around company-centric and product-centric URL design, a very interesting topic with no real consensus that I know about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with AdamD with a small addendum for the Firefox Extensions URL:</p>
<p>The Mozilla Corporation sells a product named Firefox. They own firefox.com, but redirect it to mozilla.com/products/firefox/. That said, given Mozilla&#8217;s strategy with respect to add-ons, it would probably make sense for firefox.com/extensions/ redirect to addons.mozilla.org/extensions/firefox/ <em>and</em> for mozilla.com/products/firefox/extensions/ to also redirect to addons.mozilla.org/extensions/firefox/.</p>
<p>This brings up the larger issues around company-centric and product-centric URL design, a very interesting topic with no real consensus that I know about.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Schinkel</title>
		<link>http://blog.welldesignedurls.org/2007/02/02/which-url-is-worst-ie7-add-ons-firefox-extensions-greasemonkey/#comment-835</link>
		<author>Mike Schinkel</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 06:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.welldesignedurls.org/2007/02/02/which-url-is-worst-ie7-add-ons-firefox-extensions-greasemonkey/#comment-835</guid>
					<description>Thanks for the comment Adam.  In hindsight, I guess that was too easy.  :)

Anyone got anything else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment Adam.  In hindsight, I guess that was too easy.  :)</p>
<p>Anyone got anything else?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Schinkel</title>
		<link>http://blog.welldesignedurls.org/2007/02/02/which-url-is-worst-ie7-add-ons-firefox-extensions-greasemonkey/#comment-837</link>
		<author>Mike Schinkel</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 06:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.welldesignedurls.org/2007/02/02/which-url-is-worst-ie7-add-ons-firefox-extensions-greasemonkey/#comment-837</guid>
					<description>Thanks Brad.  

By suggesting redirects you've touched on an area I've been researching for a while and I'm currently of the opinion that it is not a good idea to use redirects as doorways to complex URLs.  Sure it's okay as a bandaid over top of a poorly architected website, but it IMO it probably points to poor information architecture.  

I'd far prefer *not* to see redirects used to hide complex URLs. I think redirects are primarily to indicate resources have been moved during a rearchitecture.  I'm sure there are contexts where the redirect approach you suggest might be the best architectural choice but I'm not currently aware of one I agree with.  

In the case as you mentioned above, all URLs (firefox.com/extensions/, addons.mozilla.org/extensions/firefox/, and mozilla.com/products/firefox/extensions/) each providing a resource appropriate to the context likely with some shared information but not identical.

Regarding your comment's regarding company-centric and product-centric URL Design, they are dead-on and that's a subject I'm anxious to tackle in the future too!

Thanks again for participating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Brad.  </p>
<p>By suggesting redirects you&#8217;ve touched on an area I&#8217;ve been researching for a while and I&#8217;m currently of the opinion that it is not a good idea to use redirects as doorways to complex URLs.  Sure it&#8217;s okay as a bandaid over top of a poorly architected website, but it IMO it probably points to poor information architecture.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d far prefer *not* to see redirects used to hide complex URLs. I think redirects are primarily to indicate resources have been moved during a rearchitecture.  I&#8217;m sure there are contexts where the redirect approach you suggest might be the best architectural choice but I&#8217;m not currently aware of one I agree with.  </p>
<p>In the case as you mentioned above, all URLs (firefox.com/extensions/, addons.mozilla.org/extensions/firefox/, and mozilla.com/products/firefox/extensions/) each providing a resource appropriate to the context likely with some shared information but not identical.</p>
<p>Regarding your comment&#8217;s regarding company-centric and product-centric URL Design, they are dead-on and that&#8217;s a subject I&#8217;m anxious to tackle in the future too!</p>
<p>Thanks again for participating.</p>
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		<title>By: Gareth</title>
		<link>http://blog.welldesignedurls.org/2007/02/02/which-url-is-worst-ie7-add-ons-firefox-extensions-greasemonkey/#comment-847</link>
		<author>Gareth</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 18:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.welldesignedurls.org/2007/02/02/which-url-is-worst-ie7-add-ons-firefox-extensions-greasemonkey/#comment-847</guid>
					<description>Nearly completely agree. 

On the Microoft one the WT.mc_id=0107_20 portion is added automagically by the analytics package WebTrends if it's configured to pass the id in the querystring (which means it gets everyone, including those without cookies). The tabid portion is also not required in this case, it seems to be a CMS thing which defaults to 1 is removed (and most of the pages I saw just used 1). So you could have:

http://www.windowsmarketplace.com/category.aspx?bcatid=834

Which is basically the same as the firefox one except for a human unfriendly parameter name and value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nearly completely agree. </p>
<p>On the Microoft one the WT.mc_id=0107_20 portion is added automagically by the analytics package WebTrends if it&#8217;s configured to pass the id in the querystring (which means it gets everyone, including those without cookies). The tabid portion is also not required in this case, it seems to be a CMS thing which defaults to 1 is removed (and most of the pages I saw just used 1). So you could have:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.windowsmarketplace.com/category.aspx?bcatid=834" rel="nofollow">http://www.windowsmarketplace.com/category.aspx?bcatid=834</a></p>
<p>Which is basically the same as the firefox one except for a human unfriendly parameter name and value.</p>
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		<title>By: JackyMooll</title>
		<link>http://blog.welldesignedurls.org/2007/02/02/which-url-is-worst-ie7-add-ons-firefox-extensions-greasemonkey/#comment-909</link>
		<author>JackyMooll</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 13:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.welldesignedurls.org/2007/02/02/which-url-is-worst-ie7-add-ons-firefox-extensions-greasemonkey/#comment-909</guid>
					<description>Who can help me with .httpaccess ? 
where i can fined full information about .httpaccess file syntaxis?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who can help me with .httpaccess ?<br />
where i can fined full information about .httpaccess file syntaxis?</p>
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		<title>By: HP</title>
		<link>http://blog.welldesignedurls.org/2007/02/02/which-url-is-worst-ie7-add-ons-firefox-extensions-greasemonkey/#comment-60619</link>
		<author>HP</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 05:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.welldesignedurls.org/2007/02/02/which-url-is-worst-ie7-add-ons-firefox-extensions-greasemonkey/#comment-60619</guid>
					<description>I read this on HPs driver downloads site:

In an effort to provide the best possible customer experience, this page has been removed.

And no - there were no links on it to any of the missing downloads, nor can the site be searched - google was the only thing that found them again...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read this on HPs driver downloads site:</p>
<p>In an effort to provide the best possible customer experience, this page has been removed.</p>
<p>And no - there were no links on it to any of the missing downloads, nor can the site be searched - google was the only thing that found them again&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Morbus</title>
		<link>http://blog.welldesignedurls.org/2007/02/02/which-url-is-worst-ie7-add-ons-firefox-extensions-greasemonkey/#comment-90965</link>
		<author>Morbus</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 20:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.welldesignedurls.org/2007/02/02/which-url-is-worst-ie7-add-ons-firefox-extensions-greasemonkey/#comment-90965</guid>
					<description>Too late, too late, but firefox's addons site is called AMO for something:

addons.mozilla.org

Remember AMO, remember it all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too late, too late, but firefox&#8217;s addons site is called AMO for something:</p>
<p>addons.mozilla.org</p>
<p>Remember AMO, remember it all.</p>
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